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silverwineantique
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iconnumber posted 10-30-2003 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hallmarks from Sheffield corkscrew: rose for sterling, lion passant for England, 925 in oval for imported???? but date letter? there was a small b in 1919 but it was in a shield shape not a rounded box. YIKES! any ideas?

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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 10-30-2003 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the Tudor rose (Sheffield Assay Office) was introduced in January 1975 to replace the earlier Crown.
I'm not certain, but I believe date letters are no longer compulsory, and the .925 mark may relate to new European regulations.

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iconnumber posted 10-30-2003 02:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for info re Sheffield rose. Do you suggest that they made their own date letter, not following assay office form?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-30-2003 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda why aren't you usng your registered user ID wineantique??

If you did use your registered user ID, you could re-edit the typos instead of reposting until you get it right.

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Arg(um)entum

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iconnumber posted 10-30-2003 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The references I have only show one range with the rose: 1975 to 1999, it's capital letters. So could it be a=2000, b=2001 ??

You will need to be guided by where you got it.

I believe Patrick to be correct that the date letter is no longer mandatory - does that mean you can put anything you want on it? I doubt it.

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With the changes to the British hallmarking laws, which applied from 1999, only three marks were mandatory. They were the sponsor's mark (we knew it as the maker's mark), the assay office mark (in this case the Sheffield rose), and the finenessmark (the numerical one). The date letter was optional, struck on request. Your date letter would be, as posited by Arg(um)entum, from the cycle beginning in 2000, thus, it was for 2001. It's a nice new corkscrew.

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