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Fitzhugh

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iconnumber posted 01-07-2006 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fitzhugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm searching for information on my 10th great grandfather, Jn. Byrd, a London goldsmith of the 17th century. Any information on him or his career would be appreciated.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 01-08-2006 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Fitzhugh!
Don't know if this will help but if you do an internet search for John Byrd london goldsmith, there seems to be a lot of info out there for you to go thru.
Hope this helps. Have fun!
Jersey

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 01-08-2006 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Public Record Office in Kew Garden outside of London has records going back to the middle ages. You might send them an inquiry or see if you can find something on their web page. The London Assay office has a reference librarian who is very good about answering queries. Here are the links:

PRO: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htm

London Assay Office: http://www.thegoldsmiths.co.uk/assayoffice/

Good luck,
Tom

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Clive E Taylor

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There is no reference to Byrd in Heal's London Goldsmiths, although there are two John Birds in the late eighteen century - which means usually that Heal had not found one of his trade cards ! The name spelt with a "y" appear rare in the Georgian period. If you use the PCC list of wills from the PRO - which is a very good source - beware of different spellings and the fact that he may not be described as a goldsmith. On occasion the Court used the guild of which he was free, not the occupation.For example Benjamin Bird, the son of William Bird was free of the Joyners (due to his apprenticeship to Thomas Crooke, free Joyner) although his father was a free of the Watermens. Benjamin was actually a silversmith who specialised in buckles. When he took Richard Dennison as apprentice it was "to learn the Trade of a Joyner" and Dennison was also free of the Joyners - despite actually being another bucklemaker.
good luck -

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