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esperto56

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iconnumber posted 12-16-2005 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for esperto56     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I recently bought a Scottish tea set hallmarked Edinbourg 1870. The maker is WRC with the R in capital letter but smaller than the W and C.
Is there anyone who know this maker?

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FWG

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I didn't find a match in Jackson, don't have any references more thorough. I'm even having a hard time thinking of a name that would abbreviate as W[superscript]R....

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ahwt

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Warner may be one name. What rules are followed in abbreviations of these type? In Wm. the first and last letters are used. Is that always the rule?

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outwest

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Warner is the only thing I can think of, too. Ward was an initial thought, but the R is in the wrong place. I'm not sure if superscripts are always the last letter, but as another example:
My Edward Kinsey things are abbreviated
Edw [superscript]D Kinsey. So, the D is the last letter.

Most superscripts are quite obvious. Maybe there is a common first name in Edinborough that would fit these initials that isn't jumping out to Americans. Or, perhaps, there is another explanation for it altogether.

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FWG

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All of the examples I can think of -- at least from more recently than the 17th century -- are indeed first and last letters, if 2 letters, and include the last letter if longer.

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salmoned

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I think Wilbur or Walter fits nicely. In fact, there's a Walter Caw listed in Jackson's for Edinburgh (earliest mention 1818). Note: no mark is given, so I don't suggest this is the same maker, only that Walter is a possible meaning for 'Wr'.

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r1251

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I suspect the maker is Walker Crichton who became of freeman of the Edinburgh Incorporation of Goldsmith in 1853. He is one of many Crichtons in Edinburgh working between the 1840s and the 20th century. This Crichton is not listed in Pickford's book on Jackson's Marks but is well represented in the Incorporation's records.

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