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agphile

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iconnumber posted 06-07-2009 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I thought I might share this small 17th century wine taster, just 2 inches (50 cm.) in diameter across the rim. It was found by a "mudlark" on the foreshore of the Thames, hence its battered appearance. It is unmarked - I have wasted hours trying to make out the remnants of any mark among the scratches and dings - but the style is distinctively 17th century. Was its loss in the river perhaps the result of some over-enthusiastic tasting by the original owner?

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iconnumber posted 06-07-2009 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice.

Have you tried the freezer/condensation technique to get the marks to reveal themselves?

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iconnumber posted 06-07-2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a fun Mudlarking site.

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Years ago, I was offered one of these for $300 at an antique flea market by a scavenger/dealer who had just bought it from someone else, certainly for much less. I had seen pictures of these but hadn't realized how small they were. It was unmarked and I had never handled one before, and so was uncertain of my ability to distinguish the real article from a reproduction in the few minutes I had to evaluate it, and in those days the dollar was worth much more, and so I passed on it. I have been kicking myself ever since, as it well could have been of 17th C New York Dutch origin. Then again . . . . confused

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iconnumber posted 06-08-2009 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Swarter

I know how you feel. I have several regrets about the ones I let get away, matched by as many regrets about items I did risk acquiring then realised, as I learned more, that they were mistakes.

Scott

Thanks for the mudlark link.

I haven't tried your method of revealing any marks, but I am pretty certain that there aren't any. This would not be unusual on small items of that period. It is a hazard with these early items that one can spend time gazing at little dents or pits of corrosion trying hopefuly to convince oneself that they are decipherable marks.

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