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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 08-27-2009 04:29 PM
  
     Here is another puzzler. It is a fine silver goblet, completely gilded and decorated with flat chasing and shallow repousse. One one side is a representation of the arms of Oxford University, with the motto Dominus Illuminatio Mea. The opposite cartouche, seemingly intended for an inscription, is blank. The bowl and foot are spun, and stylistically I would date it to 1850-1870. It looks and feels like solid silver, and I am quite confident that it is. But, there are no marks whatsoever, which I find very odd. Can anyone shed any light on this fine piece? Brent IP: Logged |
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 08-28-2009 03:36 PM
A nice puzzle. You would expect an item that was some sort of Oxford souvenir to have been sold in England and therefore to have been hallmarked. By Victorian times the provincial maker who might not always mark his work was a thing of the past. I suppose it is possible that an expat Oxford alumnus in the colonies might have commissioned it locally? IP: Logged |
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 09-04-2009 05:48 PM
I've been trying to think who on earth would want a silver goblet with an Oxford badge. Not that I mean to be rude about Oxford, but if I wanted something to commemorate my University days at the other place I think I would go for my College rather than the University and for something not too ostentatious. I suspect a similar hierarchy of loyalties would apply at both Universities in Victorian times as well as now. One possibility that occurs to me is that there would probably have been a number of Oxford graduates in most parts of the former British Empire (in the Colonial Service and the Church, but also in all sorts of other employment or even idleness). Might a group of them have come together in some sort of drinking/dining club and commissioned silver for it? Just idle speculation, of course, in an attempt to support my earlier suggestion of a colonial origin. IP: Logged |
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