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Maja Posts: 2 |
posted 09-23-2003 09:28 AM
[01-1227] Hi, Can anyone please tell me what James Deakin hallmark looks like? I have recently seen silver items on the internet with the hallmark J D & S which were attributed to James Deakin. I've always thought that J D & S stands for James Dixon & Sons of Sheffield. Thank you. IP: Logged |
Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 09-23-2003 02:23 PM
According to an earlier thread Unk makers: G.M. Co and JD/WD Stephen commented: "Shield JD over WD is James Deakin & Sons, mark entered 1878." IP: Logged |
brwvabell Posts: 30 |
posted 09-23-2003 09:38 PM
JD&S is indeed James Dixon and son(s) I only know his because I have been collecting his ware since I was lucky enough to win an old Sheffield Plated water kettle on ebay .. not long ago! Most people aren't familiar with the hall marks of Dixon .. And there are Many. If you start with the small D*S and go on to the Large D*S and follow those with the bugle and banners of which there are .. At least 3 different types, follow those with the Dixon shield and Then count the variations of JD&S or J. Dixon and Son or James Dixon & Sons well .. You get the idea! I am lucky enough to have found Lots of different wares with Most of the marks! BTW .. Dixon, Never made pewter, It was always Britania if it wasn't silver, silverplate or Sheffield plate. Brenda IP: Logged |
Maja Posts: 2 |
posted 09-25-2003 06:31 AM
Thank you Patrick and Brenda for your reply. To Brenda: James Dixon & Sons did in fact produce pewter wares. You can read all about them in 'Pewter Wares from Sheffield', written by Jack L Scott. There is a whole chapter in the book dedicated to James Dixon & Sons. You can also currently see a pewter coffee pot made by James Dixon & Son on ebay. IP: Logged |
brwvabell Posts: 30 |
posted 09-26-2003 09:07 PM
Hi Maja, Even though people continue to call Britannia metal .. Pewter, to this very day, it Is somewhat different. It is Britannia and is marked as such. Folks AND authors will call it pewter but .. If you will look at any of the so-called pewter wares that were made by Dixon, the bottom will have the letters .. EPBM or BM. Electro Plated Britannia Metal or Britannia Metal.
Please see the article below. Brenda quote: IP: Logged |
adelapt Posts: 418 |
posted 09-27-2003 03:44 AM
Another aspect: although pewter will not accept electroplating, britannia metal will. Thus once electroplating became important (say mid 1840's), there would have been a natural tendency for britannia to force pewter out of the market. Although the plating (at least the earlier versions) tended to wear or be polished off the britannia, it can sometimes be found as traces under the lid or foot of an object. IP: Logged |
dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 09-27-2003 10:55 AM
One thing that I've learned over the years is to never say never. My interest is mainly silver, but have a fondness for pewter also. I was sure that I had a Dixon tankard in pewter, but all my pewter is still in storage. Did a quick search of the internet and found several pieces of Dixon and Sons marked "Cornish Pewter". They appear to be later pieces dating perhaps in the 1920s-30s. In addition, there were many pieces marked simply with some variation of Dixon & Son(s) and a number, no indication of BM or EPBM. I don't have any reason to doubt that most and perhaps all of the older Dixon pieces are Britannia, but have definitely learned that almost all reference books have errors or information that conflicts with another source. Cheryl IP: Logged |
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