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mgnewman

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iconnumber posted 02-01-2005 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mgnewman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope someone can help me with this conundrum.

I have found a biscuit barrel with very poorly-preserved marks.

  • The makers mark of WH in a oval shield is readable, but not a lot else.
  • there is a peaked shield with what looks like the shape of an ampersand in it
  • then what seems to be the date letter
  • then what looks to be a Gothic B
  • then a Gothic V (maybe a Dublin harp?)
  • then a weird shaped mark that looks like a Chester shield with the three sheaves, but on its side.
It really looks more like a grouping of 3 initials on its side. The only really good identifying mark is a stamp of 8 arrows, crossed four by four.

Any ideas? I am stumped

Mark Newman

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iconnumber posted 02-01-2005 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This sounds like silver plate by William Hutton & Sons of Sheffield & London.

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mgnewman

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Is the crossed arrows a Sheffield mark?

I saw that when I searched for crossed arrows marks on the Forum.

Any idea of how to date this?

Once again, thanks for your help!

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iconnumber posted 02-02-2005 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ordinarily, there is no way to date silverplate from the marks. Only the dates of operation of the firm provide a time frame. If ctalogs exist, the appearance of a style or pattern in the catalog of a particular year can help narrow it down.

The marks as you describwe them should be WH/&/S/B/P, followed by the sideways shield containing either MP/A, MP/B, or MP/C. WH&S stand for William Hutton & Sons and BP for Britannia Plate. I do not know what the last mark signifies.

As this thread deals with electroplate rather than Old Sheffield Plate, it will be transferred to the Silverplate Forum

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