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elspeth Posts: 6 Registered: Feb 2007	posted 03-01-2007 12:24 AM [26-1366] Hi! I just discovered this site and I'm looking forward to learning a great deal. I picked up a mug marked dunhill, made in England. Below are 4 unreadable hallmarks and above, underneath the dunhill imprint is a large square. The top of the square has the letters W in the upper left corner and M in the upper right. In the middle is a design of flowing ribbon and possibly a thisle. In the lower left corner is what appears to be the letter E. Can anyone tell me anything about this mug, or where to start to find out. Internet searches left me blank. Most all dunhill items listed on the internet are lighters, pens, tobacco items, etc. I'm not even certain if this is silver or pewter. Thanks in advance for any information. IP: Logged
agleopar Posts: 850 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 03-07-2007 11:43 AM Welcome to the forums, your description of the marks is only a begining because it is hard to "see" them in a meaningful way. My guess is that the 4 unreadable marks are readable with magnification and you will find that they are London hall marks or EPNS for silver plate. The large mark could be a makers mark...? The only sure way to let the experts here help is to post an image. It is also considered getting in the spirit of the forums if one gives a bit of your intrests, since this is all volunteer and not commercial. I look foward to seeing your mug, Dunhill always had a very high standard and I am sure it is a nice object. Also it would be interesting to know who was making for them. [This message has been edited by agleopar (edited 03-07-2007).] IP: Logged
elspeth Posts: 6 Registered: Feb 2007	posted 03-10-2007 10:40 PM Thanks agleopar! I'm working on getting a photo. I will be quite interested in what anyone can tell me. As to my interests, I'm just a beginner. Watching BBC's Cash in the Attic, I've become interested in collecting. With silver and plate, I can at least work off of hallmarks to get some idea as to the history of the pieces I'm acquiring. I've gotten some books from the library that's told me of the other three pieces I picked up, but there was nothing on English silver... As soon as I get some silver polish and have a chance to polish up the hallmarks, I'll get some photos posted. It really is a nice mug. IP: Logged
agleopar Posts: 850 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 03-11-2007 08:35 AM Elspeth I know that the images are being looked forward to, so do go to the how to post photos if it helps. I am not so sure about polishing the marks? By that I mean that if you just give the mug a normal polish and only if there is polish or shmutz (very technical term, not enough space to define it here) in the marks use a very soft toothbrush and hot soapy water to gently try to remove it. The reasons you do not want to do more is that firstly silver is very soft and even a hard toothbrush scratches it. If you had a brand new piece of silver with a mirror finish and you ran a brush over it or even you fingers you would see tiny scratches. Secondly the marks themselves are set into the surface and therefor do not get those scratches and you do not want to mare them by say rubing hard with a match stick etc. Also if they have a tarnish it can sometimes help in reading them by providing a contrast. I think I remember the Dunhill shop from the 70's (Bond St., Jermyn St.?) and it always had the best quality items, so I would asume that your mug is well made and a good weight. Look forward to seeing it. IP: Logged
elspeth Posts: 6 Registered: Feb 2007	posted 03-13-2007 11:07 AM OK, let's give this a try. Here's a photo of the mug. Hope this works. IP: Logged
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 Registered: May 2003	posted 03-14-2007 01:27 PM Your mug is pewter, of a classic style that has been made for many years. The marks beneath the dunhill name are pseudohallmarks, which on a piece this recent, have no real meaning, except to imitate earlier marks; sometimes these serve as trademarks of the manufacturer, but in your photo of the bottom they are too blurred to make out. If you use the edit function on the posting in which Scott has placed one of your photos, you will be able to see how he has written the coded link - you can use that as a model to post your other images. IP: Logged
elspeth Posts: 6 Registered: Feb 2007	posted 03-19-2007 09:36 AM Thanks so much for the information. As I love pewter, it doesn't disappoint me and even if it's a common style I like it. Plus, I only paid a quarter for it. No wonder I couldn't place the hallmarks in all the places I looked. Now to move on to other pieces that are silver. IP: Logged

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